WHEN: Today, Wednesday, October 7th
WHERE: CNBC's "Squawk Box"
Following is the unofficial transcript of a CNBC interview with Republican Presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson on CNBC's "Squawk Box" (M-F, 6AM-9AM ET) today. Following are links to the interview on CNBC.com: http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000429884, http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000429888, and http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000429887.
All references must be sourced to CNBC.
JOE KERNEN: WE ARE JUST THREE WEEKS FROM THE CNBC GOP PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. DONALD TRUMP CONTINUES TO BE THE FRONT RUNNER IN MANY POLLS. DR. BEN CARSON FIRMLY IN SECOND. I SAW IN FIRST – I THINK IT IS AN INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY POLL, THE REST OF THE PACK TRAILING FAR BEHIND. JOINING US NOW ON SET WE ARE PLEASED TO SAY, DR. BEN CARSON. HE IS ALSO AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK "A PERFECT UNION." DOCTOR, IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU.
DR. BEN CARSON: THANK YOU.
KERNEN: WELCOME. SO WE'VE HAD –
DR. CARSON: IT'S "A MORE PERFECT UNION," BY THE WAY.
KERNEN: OH, SORRY, "A MORE PERFECT UNION." BEN BERNANKE WAS ON EARLIER THIS WEEK. WE HAVE STILL NOT BEGUN TO RAISE INTEREST RATES. SO WE'VE HAD NINE YEARS SINCE WE'VE HAD AN INTEREST RATE INCREASE, AND YET THE LATEST JOBS NUMBER WAS DISAPPOINTING, AND WE'RE AT 62% OF PARTICIPATION IN THE WORK FORCE. WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THE WORST RECOVERY IN A COUPLE OF, PROBABLY, DECADES? WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO, AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO CHANGE THAT?
DR. CARSON: SURE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR ECONOMY GREW AT A RATE OF 3.3% ON AVERAGE FROM 1850 INTO 2000. FROM 2001 TO 2014, IT GREW AT A RATE OF 1.8%. THIS IS A MAJOR DIFFERENCE. AND IF YOU PROJECT THAT OVER 20 YEARS AT 1.8 FROM NOW YOU END UP WITH A $26 TRILLION DOLLAR ECONOMY, AT 3.3 A $35 TRILLION DOLLAR ECONOMY. HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND MANY ECONOMISTS WILL TELL YOU, THAT WHEN THE GDP TO DEBT RATIO REACHES 90%, YOU SEE SIGNIFICANT SLUGGISHNESS. WE'RE AT 103% RIGHT NOW. SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE VERY DETRIMENTAL. WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN $18 TRILLION PLUS NATIONAL DEBT, AND YOU KNOW, I SEE JANET YELLEN AND SHE IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, SHE'S TRYING TO RAISE THE RATES. BUT WHAT IS THE DEBT SERVICE ON $18.5 TRILLION IF YOU GET TO A NORMAL INTEREST RATE? RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 250 BILLION. YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPROACHING A TRILLION DOLLARS WHEN YOU GET UP THERE. AND THAT'S A VERY HARD PLACE FOR US TO BE RIGHT NOW. AND WHO DOES THAT AFFECT? THE MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR PEOPLE. BECAUSE IT USED TO BE THAT JOE THE BUTCHER COULD GO EVERY FRIDAY AND PUT 5% OF HIS CHECK IN THE BANK AND WATCH IT GROW OVER DECADES AND RETIRE WITH A NICE NEST EGG. CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. NOT HAVING THAT KIND OF THING. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN MAKE MONEY ARE PEOPLE WITH RISK TOLERANCE, THOSE TEND TO BE MORE WEALTHY PEOPLE. THEY CAN GO INTO THE STOCK MARKET AND THUS YOU SEE THE INCOME CAP GROWING. I MEAN, THIS IS A HORRIBLE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE CREATED. AND OUR NATIONAL DEBT HAS JUST ABOUT BEEN DOUBLED DURING THIS ADMINISTRATION. THESE ARE THE POLICIES THAT ARE HURTING PEOPLE. YOU CAN TAKE EVERY PENNY FROM THE TOP 1% AND APPLY IT TO OUR FISCAL GAP AND YOU WILL BARELY MAKE A DENT. THAT'S THE WRONG ARGUMENT.
KERNEN: OK.
BECKY QUICK: GO AHEAD.
KERNEN: I'M JUST WONDERING, SO IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT, WHAT DO WE DO?
DR. CARSON: A NUMBER OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, KICK START. WHAT I WOULD DO IS DECLARE A SIX-MONTH TAX HIATUS FOR THE $2 TRILLION PLUS OVERSEAS SO THAT WE CAN REPATRIATE THAT MONEY.
KERNEN: AND CHARGE HOW MUCH? WOULD YOU TAX IT AT ALL COMING BACK?
DR. CARSON: ZERO.
KERNEN: ZERO.
DR. CARSON: HOWEVER, I WOULD STIPULATE THAT 10% OF IT HAD TO BE USED IN ENTERPRISE ZONES THAT WE WOULD SET UP IN SOME OF OUR MAJOR CITIES OR TO CREATE JOBS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED AND ON WELFARE. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A STIMULUS? THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BIGGEST STIMULUS SINCE THE NEW DEAL AND FDR. AND IT WOULDN'T COST THE TAXPAYERS A SINGLE PENNY.
KERNEN: DOCTOR, YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE BECKY IS TAKING NOTES AND SHE'S GOING TO BE AT THAT DEBATE ON OCTOBER 28TH, THE CNBC DEBATE. SO ANYTHING YOU SAY HERE, YOU'VE GOT, ONE, TWO – SHE'S GOT IT ALL WRITTEN DOWN HERE.
DR. CARSON: EXCELLENT.
KERNEN: OKAY?
DR. CARSON: I'M DELIGHTED.
KERNEN: IS THAT WHY YOU ARE DOING THAT?
QUICK: NO, I'VE BEEN TAKING NOTES ON WHAT SAM HAS BEEN SAYING ALL MORNING, TOO. IT'S MY WAY OF REMEMBERING THINGS.
KERNEN: NO, I KNOW. I'M KIDDING.
SAM ZELL: BUT YOU KNOW, DR. CARSON, I THINK THE IDEA OF REPATRIAING ALL THAT MONEY TAX FREE IS TERRIFIC. AND IT REFLECTS THE FACT THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT TAXES INCOME WORLDWIDE AND MAKES NO SENSE.
DR. CARSON: RIGHT.
ZELL: BUT CREATING ANOTHER BOONDOGLE FOR POLITICIANS TO WASTE MONEY WITH ENTERPRISE ZONES AND SPECIAL DEBT, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON UP UNTIL NOW. AND THOSE SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER HEAD START? REMEMBER ALL THESE OTHER PROGRAMS?
DR. CARSON: AGREE. AGREE THAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE THINGS INAPPROPRIATELY. WHEN YOU GO TO WASHINGTON AND LIFT THE HOOD TO SEE HOW THINGS WORK, YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IS TO CLOSE IT AND RUN AWAY. AND WE CAN SUBMIT TO THAT. AND WE CAN SAY THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE. OR WE CAN SAY THE END TO THAT KIND OF THING.
ZELL: YEAH, BUT I THINK $2 TRILLION WORTH OF STIMULUS ALONE WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR COUNTRY.
DR. CARSON: IT WOULD.
ZELL: I THINK PASSING THE TPP WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR COUNTRY.
KERNEN: WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT, DOCTOR? BECAUSE YOU GO FAR ENOUGH RIGHT, THE RIGHT DOESN'T WANT TO PASS THE TPP.
DR. CARSON: WELL, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY BELIEVE IN FREE TRADE. AND AS LONG AS BOTH SIDES ARE BEING FAIR, THEN I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND GET INVOLVED.
QUICK: DOES THAT MEAN YOU SUPPORT TPP?
DR. CARSON: I THINK THERE ARE ASPECTS OF IT THAT ARE REASONABLE.
QUICK: IT CAN'T BE RENEGOTIATED. DO YOU SUPPORT IT, YES OR NO?
DR. CARSON: WHY CAN'T IT BE RENEGOTIATED?
QUICK: BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PUSHED DOWN THIS ENTIRE LINE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO EVERY CONGRESS AND RENEGOTIATE WHAT HAPPENED. I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD.
DR. CARSON: SEE, I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MOST PEOPLE. WHEN PEOPLE SAY TO ME, IT CAN'T BE DONE, I DON'T NECESSARILY LISTEN TO THAT. BECAUSE MY WHOLE LIFE I'VE HEARD THAT AND I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH IT.
QUICK: SO YOU WOULDN'T TAKE IT THE WAY IT STANDS TODAY? YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT RENEGOTIATED?
DR. CARSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT RENEGOTIATED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, YOU KNOW, WHO BENEFIT. I DON'T LIKE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. I ONLY LIKE ONE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
QUICK: I HOPE YOU CAN EXPLAIN YOUR TAX PLAN A LITTLE BIT. IT IS A 10% FLAT TAX THAT YOU WOULD BE SEEING? OR MAYBE STARTS AT 15% AND GOES TO 10%?
DR. CARSON: RIGHT. I USE 10% BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO DO THE NUMBERS. BUT THE PRINCIPLE THAT I'M ESPOUSING IS COMPLETE FAIRNESS, AND I THINK THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN HAVE COMPLETE FAIRNESS IS PROPORTIONALITY. YOU MAKE $10 BILLION, YOU PAY A BILLION. YOU MAKE 10, YOU PAY 1. AND YOU GET EXACTLY THE SAME RATES AND PRIVILEGES. THAT'S PRETTY FAIR. YOU HAVE TO REMOVE ALL THE LOOPHOLES, ALL THE DEDUCTIONS. ZERO. NOW, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT'S NOT FAIR BECAUSE THE GUY WHO MADE $10 BILLION HAS STILL GOT $9 BILLION LEFT, AND WE NEED TO TAKE MORE OF HIS MONEY. BUT THAT'S SOCIALISM. AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY EXAMPLES WHERE THAT LEADS TO PROSPERITY. WHAT LED TO PROSPERITY IN THIS COUNTRY IS WE SAID THAT GUY JUST PUT A BILLION DOLLARS IN, LET'S MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT EVEN MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY SO THAT NEXT YEAR, HE MAKES $20 BILLION AND PUTS $2 BILLION IN. THAT'S HOW WE WENT FROM NOWHERE TO THE PINNACLE OF THE WORLD. YOU KNOW, WE DECLARED OUR INDEPENDENCE IN 1776, LESS THAN 100 YEARS FROM THAT, WE WERE THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC POWER IN THE WORLD. THAT'S PHENOMENAL. BUT WE CREATED THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT TO DO THAT.
QUICK: ALTHOUGH OUR TAX CODE HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROGRESSIVE. IF YOU MAKE MORE MONEY, YOU PAY MORE.
DR. CARSON: YEAH, WELL, WE MANAGED TO STRUGGLE THROUGH THAT. BUT WE CAN DO BETTER.
ZELL: BEFORE 1913, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE CASE. I THINK THE INCOME TAX BILL OF 1913 WAS THE –
QUICK: THE FIRST PROGRESSIVE –
ZELL: FIRST, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS EFFORT AT PROGRESSING TAXATION.
QUICK: OKAY, SO THE LAST 103 YEARS WE'VE HAD PROGRESSIVE TAXATION.
ZELL: YEAH.
DR. CARSON: YEAH, I WOULD ACTUALL AGREE VERY MUCH WITH THAT STATEMENT, BUT IT ALSO GOES BACK TO SOMETHING ELSE. PEOPLE SAY, IF WE DO YOUR SYSTEM, THERE WOULD BE NO MORE CHARITABLE GIVING.
QUICK: DEDUCTIONS, RIGHT.
DR. CARSON: BUT PEOPLE WERE VERY CHARITABLE BEFORE 1913. AND AMERICANS TEND TO BE CHARITABLE PEOPLE, AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE EVEN MORE CHARITABLE IF THEY HAD MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET. ALSO, PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, THE GUY WHO PAID $10, HE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY ANYTHING. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT ARGUMENT IS, CAN HE AFFORD TO DRIVE ON PUBLIC ROADS? CAN HIS CHILDREN GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS? AND I CAME FROM THAT DEMOGRAPHIC AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE THERE ARE NOT ALL LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT. THEY WANT TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF IT. WHAT THEY WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT WE DO IS RECTIFY THE ECONOMY AND GIVE THEM A LADDER WHEREBY THROUGH THEIR HARD WORK THEY CAN ASCEND THE LADDER OF OPPORTUNITY AND BECOME PART OF THE FABRIC OF AMERICA. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON, NOT PATTING THEM ON THE HEAD AND KEEPING THEM COMFORTABLE IN A DEPENDENT SITUATION.
KERNEN: WE HAVE – IN YOUR PLAN, WHERE'S CORPORATE TAXATION?
DR. CARSON: WELL, ONCE WE DO THE SIX MONTH HIATUS A LOT OF THE MONEY COMES BACK IN. IT HAS TO BE REESTABLISHED AT A LEVEL LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE. BECAUSE I WANT –
KERNEN: GLOBAL RATE, YOU MEAN?
DR. CARSON: RIGHT. I WANT US TO BE A MAGNET. I WANT US TO DRAW –
KERNEN: WHAT'S THE AVERAGE – WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THE LOWEST GLOBAL – WHAT IS THE AVERAGE NOW?
DR. CARSON: WELL, BETWEEN 15 AND 20.
KERNEN: BETWEEN 15 AND 20.
DR. CARSON: I WANT SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY – I WANT US TO BECOME A TAX HAVEN FOR PEOPLE. BECAUSE IT ALSO BECOMES AN OPPORTUNITY HAVEN FOR PEOPLE.
KERNEN: REGULATIONS, EVERY TIME WE ADD REGULATIONS, USUALLY THE EXISTING REGULATIONS STAY ON THE BOOKS. SO IT JUST GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER.
DR. CARSON: EXACTLY.
KERNEN: IT'S A DAUNTING CHALLENGE TO EVEN TRY AND ADDRESS IT. HOW CAN YOU ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
DR. CARSON: YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER MANY AN AFTERNOON SITTING AROUND THE CORPORATE BOARD TABLE – COSTCO AND KELLOGG WHERE I SPENT MANY DECADES – AND TALKING ABOUT NOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? YOU KNOW, DODD-FRANK, OR THE NEXT REGULATION THAT COMES ON. HOW MANY LAWYERS DO WE HAVE TO HIRE? WHAT NEW DEPARTMENTS DO WE HAVE TO CREATE? WELL, IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY. AND GUESS WHO GETS TO PAY FOR THAT? THE CONSUMER. AND EVERY TIME WE DO IT, WE ADD TO THE CONSUMER'S DEBT. LOAD, IT'S ALMOST LIKE PASSING A TAX EVERY TIME WE DO THAT. AND I'M NOT A PERSON WHO BELIEVES THAT WE SHOULD GET RID OF ALL REGULATIONS. OUR FOUNDERS SAID IF MEN WERE ANGELS, NO GOVERNMENT OR REGULATION WOULD BE NECESSARY, BUT MEN ARE NOT ANGELS NOR ARE WOMEN FOR THAT MATTER. AND, THEREFORE, WE, OBVIOUSLY, NEED APPROPRIATE REGULATORY OVERSIGHT IN OUR COUNTRY. AND THAT'S PERFECTLY REASONABLE.
ZELL: BUT THE DEFINITION OF APPROPRIATE ALWAYS REQUIRES A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. AND FROM A POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY KNOW HOW TO SPELL C-O-S-T.
KERNEN: I THOUGHT YOU SAID KERNEN ADMINISTRATION. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT SOUNDED PRETTY DAMN GOOD. KERNEN ADMINISTRATION.
ZELL: IF DONALD TRUMPCAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT, SO CAN YOU.
KERNEN: IF KANYE CAN, YEAH. I'M NOT GOING TO ANNOUNCE TODAY, THOUGH. I'M NOT PREPARED TO DO THAT.
DR. CARSON: I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THEY ARE DIVORCED FROM REALITY. BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH REAL PEOPLE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE DISCOVERED IN MY DECADES OF WORK IN THE CORPORATE WORLD AND IN ESTABLISHING A NATIONAL SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM, WHICH IS VERY SUCCESSFUL, BY THE WAY. I SOUNDED LIKE DONALD TRUMP THERE.
QUICK: YOU CAUGHT YOURSELF.
ZELL: YOU WANT A COMB?
KERNEN: YOU DON'T HAVE A COMB.
ZELL: NO, SORRY. NOT FOR 50 YEARS.
DR. CARSON: WE LIKE PEOPLE LIKE HIM IN THE SURGERY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SHAVE. BUT YOU KNOW, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, ALL OF THESE POLICIES THAT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION UTILIZES DEMONSTRATES A DISTINCT LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF ECONOMICS. AND I'VE MET INCREDIBLE PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS WORLD WHO KNOW HOW TO RUN THINGS, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO RUN OUR GOVERNMENT LIKE WE RUN AN EFFICIENT BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, APPLYING THINGS LIKE LEAN SIX SIGMA TO THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH, GENERALLY SAVES YOU 25% AND GETS MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE PROCESSING. AND WE'VE GOT 4.1 MILLION FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. THAT'S ABSURD. AND WE NEED TO REDUCE THAT, BY ATTRITION, WE CAN GET IT DOWN IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO A REASONABLE LEVEL. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 645 GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND SUB-AGENCIES ALL OF WHICH HAVE BUDGETS. WE NEED TO, ACROSS THE BOARD, HAVE THEM CUT THOSE BUDGETS. ANYBODY WHO TELLS ME THERE'S NOT 3 OR 4% FAT, I THINK THEY ARE LIVING IN AN ALTERNATE PLANET.
KERNEN: DOCTOR, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR – THE TYPICAL, IF THERE IS ONE, BEN CARSON SUPPORTER – IS IT ON SOCIAL ISSUES OR IS IT ON ECONOMIC ISSUES?
DR. CARSON: IT'S ON A HOST OF ISSUES.
KERNEN: HOST OF ISSUES. YOU LOSE SOME ECONOMIC VOTERS WITH THE SOCIAL, AND, I GUESS – I DON'T THINK YOU –
DR. CARSON: WELL, WHEN WE HAVE RALLIES, YOU KNOW, I SEE HUGE NUMBERS OF MILLENNIALS AND YOUNG PEOPLE. AND I KNOW THAT THEY, FOR THE MOST PART, PROBABLY DON'T AGREE WITH ME –
KERNEN: SOCIALLY.
DR. CARSON: ON THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE OR WHETHER MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGALIZED. BUT THEY DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO IS LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR FUTURE. AND UNDERSTANDS THE ECONOMIC IMPLICATIONS OF OUR FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY AND WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THEM. THEY REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO IS THINKING PROACTIVELY ABOUT HARDENING OUR ELECTRICAL GRID AND PROVIDING MULTIPLE LEVELS OF ENERGY SO THAT WE DON'T GET KNOCKED OUT AND PUT IN A VERY VULNERABLE SITUATION. AND WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW TO USE OUR ENERGY ON A GLOBAL LEVEL TO PUT PUTIN BACK IN HIS LITTLE BOX WHERE HE BELONGS. AND SOMEBODY WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT GLOBAL JIHADESTS ARE. THEY ARE NOT A LITTLE JV TEAM THAT WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THEY WANT TO DESTROY US. AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN. AND IT CANNOT BE WAIT AND SEE WHAT THEY DO AND THEN REACT TO IT.
KERNEN: HOW LONG IS OUR DEBATE? THREE HOURS?
QUICK: TWO HOURS.
KERNEN: WELL, WE MIGHT DO THREE. I DON'T KNOW. BECAUSE WE NEED MORE TIME.
QUICK: WE NEED MORE TIME.
KERNEN: OBVIOUSLY THIS WASN'T ENOUGH TIME. BUT HOPEFULLY, WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.
DR. CARSON: I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
KERNEN: BUT WE'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE YOU ANY TIME YOU ARE IN NEW YORK. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON.
DR. CARSON: ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
QUICK: THANK YOU, DR. CARSON.
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