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First on CNBC: CNBC Transcript: McAfee Founder John McAfee on CNBC's "Squawk Box" Today

When: Today, Friday, December 14, 2012 at 8:45AM ET

Where: CNBC's "Squawk Box"

Following is the unofficial transcript of a FIRST ON CNBC interview with McAfee founder John McAfee today on CNBC's "Squawk Box" (M-F, 6-9AM ET). Here is a link to the embeddable video: http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000135295.

All references must be sourced to CNBC.

ANDREW ROSS SORKIN: WELCOME BACK TO "SQUAWK BOX" THIS MORNING. ROBERT FRANK JOINS US ON SET FOR A VERY SPECIAL INTERVIEW. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT ALL MORNING. ROBERT?

ROBERT FRANK: SPECIAL AND PROBABLY A LITTLE STRANGE, TOO. YOU KNOW, THE GLOBAL GAME OF HIDE AND SEEK WITH JOHN McAFEE HAS RIVETED THE COUNTRY FOR WEEKS. HE'S WANTED FOR QUESTIONING FOR A MURDER IN BELIZE. HE IS NOW IN MIAMI, WE THINK. HE JOINS US FIRST ON CNBC TO TELL US WHERE THIS BIZARRE STORY GOES NEXT. JOHN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. YOU ARE IN MIAMI, AREN'T YOU?

JOHN McAFEE: I WAS JUST PLAYING AROUND. YES, I AM IN MIAMI.

FRANK: OKAY. NOW, WE -- I SPOKE WITH THE BELIZE POLICE YESTERDAY AND THEY SAID THIS INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING, THEY COULD CHARGE YOU WITH THIS MURDER IF THEY DO THEY HAVE AN EXTRADITION TREATY WITH THE U.S. WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO BELIZE TO ANSWER THESE CHARGES. WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU ARE CHARGED WITH THIS MURDER AND THE U.S. FORCES YOU TO GO BACK TO BELIZE? WILL YOU DISAPPEAR? WILL YOU GO TO ANSWER THOSE CHARGES?

McAFEE: I WOULD CERTAINLY GO TO ANSWER THOSE CHARGES. BUT THERE WILL BE NO CHARGES. THIS IS LIKE EVERY OTHER CHARGE THEY HAVE LEVELED AGAINST ME SINCE THE 30th OF APRIL OF THIS YEAR. THE FIRST ONE BEING RUNNING A METH LAB. THEN RUNNING AN ANTIBIOTICS LAB WITHOUT A LICENSE, WHICH IS A SERIOUS CRIME IN THE THIRD WORLD. AND ON AND ON AND ON. THIS IS ABOUT THE ELEVENTH ATTEMPT TO CHARGE ME WITH SOMETHING. I WILL NOT BE CHARGED WITH THIS. I WILL CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I'VE OFFERED TO ANSWER THEM IN A NEUTRAL COUNTRY. IF I AM, I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO ANSWER THEM. BUT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN, SIR.

FRANK: SO IF YOU ARE ASKED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS WOULD YOU DO IT WITH U.S. LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE? AND DID YOU THINK THAT WILL SATISFY THE BELIZE POLICE? AND IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR YOU TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, EITHER BY PHONE OR VIDEO, WITH U.S. POLICE?

McAFEE: I'VE OFFERED IT MANY TIMES. IN FACT, I'VE SAID IN ANY NEUTRAL COUNTRY I WILL MEET AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANT. I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO TURN MYSELF IN TO THE AUTHORITIES WHO'VE BEEN TRYING TO LAY HANDS ON ME FOR MONTHS NOW. SO, NO. BUT I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BELIZE TO DO IT. IF I'M CHARGED, OF COURSE, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE ME. LET ME BE CLEAR. I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDER OF GREGORY FAULL. THE AUTHORITIES KNOW THIS.

FRANK: AND I THINK OUR VIEWERS JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT. IF YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, WHY GO INTO HIDING FOR THE PAST MONTH?

McAFEE: I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN HIDING FOR THE PAST 2 1/2 MONTHS. THE GREGORY FAULL INCIDENT OCCURRED IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. IT STARTED ON THE 30th OF APRIL WHEN THEY RAIDED MY PROPERTY IN ORANGE WALK. THEY SUBMITTED ME TO A KIND OF TORTURE WHERE THEY PUT MY HANDS BEHIND MY BACK, HANDCUFFED ME AND KEPT ME THERE FOR 14 HOURS. YOU SHOULD TRY THIS SOMETIME. AFTER ABOUT THE SIXTH HOUR THAT THE AGONY BECOMES UNBEARABLE. THEY DIDN'T CHARGE ME, LET ME GO. AND THE NEXT DAY CAME BACK AND SAID, NOW WOULD YOU DONATE THE $2 MILLION? THIS HAS BEEN MY ONGOING STRUGGLE. INSTEAD OF DONATING THEM THE MONEY I WENT TO THE INTERNATIONAL PRESS AND TOLD MY STORY. WHEN THAT HAPPENED THEY BEGAN IN EARNEST TO GO AFTER ME. FINALLY, I, YOU KNOW, I GAVE UP, AND ESCAPED AND HERE I AM.

SORKIN: JOHN, THERE HAVE BEEN THOSE THAT HAVE SAID THAT YOU LOVE ELABORATE HOAXES. JUST A WEEK AGO YOU STAGED YOUR OWN HEART ATTACK, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

McAFEE: THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

SORKIN: YOU HAVE SOLD A BOOK AND PERHAPS A MOVIE PROJECT RELATED TO WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. THIS -- TO THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS SAYING, THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, THIS WHOLE THING IS CRAZY, WHAT DO YOU SAY?

McAFEE: IT CERTAINLY FEELS CRAZY TO ME. AND I DO LOVE HOAXES AND I LOVE ELABORATE HOAXES. BUT NOT ONES THAT INVOLVE MY DETENTION IN A GUATEMALAN JAILS, SHOOTING OF MY DOGS, THE HARM TO PEOPLE. NO SIR, THIS IS NOT A HOAX. IF IT IS IT'S THE WORST HOAX IN THE WORLD. HOW COULD IT BE A HOAX? I WAS MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS IN APRIL WHEN 42 ARMED SOLDIERS STORMED MY PROPERTY, SHOT MY DOG IN FRONT OF MY EYES, JUST TO SHOW ME THEY WERE SERIOUS. DESTROYED A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROPERTY. TORTURED ME IN THE SUN BY KEEPING MY HANDS HANDCUFFED BEHIND MY BACK WITH NO RELIEF FOR 14 HOURS. AGAIN, I SUGGEST YOU TRY THIS PEOPLE. THEY TAKE ME TO A JAIL, RELEASE ME WITH NO CHARGE AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON THEY HAVE BEEN HARASSING ME. IF IT'S A HOAX, I CERTAINLY DID NOT INVENT IT, SIR.

JOE KERNEN: SO JOHN AS A HOAXER, THAT MAKES IT HARD FOR US TO WHETHER YOU ARE JUST PLAYING US OR WHETHER YOU ARE ECCENTRIC OR CRAZY OR WHATEVER—I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE BATH SALTS STUFF BUT THEN I'VE HEARD YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY DRUGS IN 30 YEARS. IS THE BATH SALTS, LIKE A—YOU ARE KNOWN AS A BATH SALTS ENTHUSIAST, IS KIND OF PART OF THE HOAX?

McAFEE: WELL I DID A HOAX ON BATH SALTS ONCE, ABSOLUTELY. BUT BATH SALTS ARE USED BY PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN ORDER TO GET HIGH IN A WAY THAT MAKES YOU WANT TO EAT PEOPLE'S FACES. YOU KNOW, IF I DECIDED TO START DOING DRUGS AGAIN, I HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO GOOD DRUGS. ABSOLUTELY, I DID A HOAX ON A WEBSITE CALLED BLUELIGHT WHERE A DRUG CALLED MDPV TAN, 11 YEARS AGO THERE WAS A HOAX BY A COUPLE OF BRITISH PEOPLE THAT CLAIMED TO HAVE DISCOVERED THIS DRUG THAT HAD MIRACULOUS PROPERTIES, GOT YOU HIGH, MADE YOU SEXUAL, INCREASED YOUR INTELLIGENCE BUT THEN IT DISAPPEARED IT WAS NOT REAL. SO I MADE A HOAX TO PRETEND THAT I, IN THE JUNGLE OF BELIZE, HAD DISCOVERED THE FORMULA FOR IT. IT WAS A FUN JOKE. IT WENT ON FOR MONTHS AND GOT TO BE THE LARGEST THREAD IN BLUELIGHT. BUT NOW, THAT HURT NO ONE. I'VE BEEN JAILED, MY DOGS HAVE BEEN KILLED AND I DIDN'T START THIS. HOW WOULD I GET A HOAX TO HAVE 42 SOLDIERS TO COME AND DESTROY MY PROPERTY, ARREST ME AND TORTURE ME? GET REAL SIR, THAT CANNOT BE A JOKE THAT I CREATED.

FRANK: JOHN, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE FASCINATED BY YOUR STORY IS YOUR WEALTH AND MORE IMPORTANTLY YOUR FORMER WEALTH, AT ONE POINT YOU OF COURSE STARTED McAFEE ASSOCIATES, YOU WERE AT ONE POINT WORTH OVER ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. WHEN YOU WENT TO BELIZE IN 2009 REPORTS SAY YOU WERE WORTH AROUND FOUR MILLION DOLLARS, NOW WE HEAR YOU ARE WORTH TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS AND ALL OF THAT MONEY OR MOST OF IT IS IN BELIZE. WHAT ARE YOU WORTH AND WHERE IS YOUR MONEY RIGHT NOW?

McAFEE: YOU KNOW, MY ACCOUNTANT MAY KNOW WHAT I'M WORTH. I HAVE NOT ASKED HIM RECENTLY. YOU KNOW, I'M 67 YEARS OLD. I EAT WELL AND I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR FOOD AND CLOTHES. I REALLY DON'T HAVE A CLUE SIR.

FRANK: JUST A BALLPARK.

McAFEE: YOU KNOW, LESS THAN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS CERTAINLY

FRANK: LESS THAN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, AND WHERE IS THAT MONEY. IS IT IN INVESTMENTS? OR IS IT IN PROPERTY?

McAFEE: WELL, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE POCKETS OF THE POLITICIANS IN BELIZE NOW. I THINK THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING AN ACQUISITION OF MY RESOURCES LIKE THEY ACQUIRED THE LORD ASHCROFT'S TELEPHONE COMPANY, THEY JUST TOOK IT AWAY FROM HIM AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME.

SORKIN: JOHN, DO YOU STILL CONSIDER YOURSELF RIGHT NOW TO BE ON THE RUN, IF YOU WILL?

McAFEE: NO, DO I LOOK LIKE I'M ON THE RUN? I'M SITTING COMFORTABLE, I'VE GOT A CUP OF COFFEE. YEAH, NO, I'M NOT ON THE RUN. I STOPPED BEING ON THE RUN AS SOON AS I ARRIVED IN MIAMI. I WAS MET BY A NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS, I HAD A MOMENTS HESITATION BUT THEY WERE ALL SMILING AND SAID SIR WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU COME WITH US. WE WILL TAKE YOU TO SAFETY.

KERNEN: DID THE AUTHORITIES IN BELIZE, THERE WAS SOME PRIOR HISTORY WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR I GUESS, NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT WAS, HOW LONG HAD THERE BEEN SOME, I DON'T KNOW, ANIMOSITY OR BAD BLOOD AND IS THAT WHY PEOPLE THINK MAYBE, I MEAN HE WAS MURDERED, RIGHT SO IT HAPPENED SOMEHOW, AND IF THERE WAS SOME BAD BLOOD MAYBE THAT'S HOW ALL THIS GOT MISCONSTRUED.

McAFEE: I LOVE HOW THE PRESS SORT OF CREATES REALITY AND THEN FEEDS ON THAT REALITY UNTIL THERE'S A HISTORY OF BAD BLOOD. I'D SPOKEN 50 WORDS TO THAT MAN IN 5 YEARS AND AS A NEIGHBOR, YOU SHOULD SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE TWO VACANT LOTS BETWEEN US, I MEAN HUNDREDS OF YARDS DOWN THE BEACH, I BARELY SAW HIM THE LAST TIME I SAW THE MAN WAS MONTHS AGO. NOW, HE DID NOT LIKE MY DOGS, AND HE LIKE MANY OF THE RESIDENTS DRANK HEAVILY. I DON'T DRINK AND ASSOCIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO DRINK. I DON'T. I DON'T ALLOW THEM IN MY HOUSE, I DON'T GO TO HOUSES OF PEOPLE WHO DRINK, I DON'T HIRE PEOPLE WHO DRINK. I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S WEIRD AND THAT'S ECCENTRIC AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT ME. I DIDN'T HAVE A HISTORY WITH HIM, HE COMPLAINED ABOUT MY DOGS BUT EVERY NEIGHBOR COMPLAINED ABOUT MY DOGS. I COMPLAINED ABOUT MY DOGS, THEY KEPT ME AWAKE TOO. I WAS TRYING TO FIX THE PROBLEM. IF I HAD TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST EVERYBODY WHO COMPLAINED ABOUT MY DOGS, THERE WOULD BE NO PEOPLE LEFT IN SAN PEDRO. SO WE HAD NO HISTORY. SIR.

FRANK: JOHN, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET YOUR GIRLFRIEND, SAMANTHA, WHO'S 20 YEARS OLD AND HER FRIEND AMY, WHO I GUESS USED TO BE A GIRLFRIEND BUT TRIED TO KILL YOU AT ONE POINT, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM BACK TO AMERICA. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT AND WHY THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE U.S. RIGHT NOW?

McAFEE: I DID USED TO LIVE WITH AMY. AND I CURRENTLY LIVE WITH SAMANTHA. AND AMY AND SAMANTHA ARE GOOD FRIENDS AND THEY ARE IN FACT TOGETHER AND AMY ESCAPED FROM BELIZE THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY ON FOOT. SHE MET UP WITH SAMANTHA, AND THEY ARE IN HIDING IN GUATEMALA, LEGALLY. THEY HAVE -- THEIR PASSPORTS ARE STAMPED. SO THE GUATEMALAN AUTHORITY HAS NO REASON TO EXTRADITE THEM. BUT THE ARM OF BELIZE IS LONG. IT'S LONG ENOUGH THAT WHEN I GOT INTO GUATEMALA, I WAS ARRESTED AT 10:00 AT NIGHT. AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING, A PRESS RELEASE WAS ISSUED SAYING I WAS GOING TO BE EXPORTED BACK TO BELIZE AT 8:00 A.M. IT WAS ONLY THE ACTION OF MY ATTORNEY AT 5:00 A.M. WHO BROUGHT A JUDGE IN TO STAY THAT MOVE UNTIL WE COULD FILE AN APPEAL THAT KEPT ME FROM GOING BACK. SO YOU KNOW THAT THEY CAN KIDNAP A COUPLE OF YOUNG GIRLS AND BRING THEM BACK. IF THAT HAPPENS, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND TURN MYSELF IN TO PREVENT THEM FROM BEING TORTURED AND THE STUFF THAT PEOPLE DO IN BELIZE. I KNOW IT SOUNDS MAD. BUT THIS HAPPENS. I'M SORRY, PEOPLE GET TORTURED IN BELIZE. THIS HAPPENS. I'M SORRY. IT HAPPENS IN MEXICO, AND NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING. IT HAPPENS IN HONDURAS, BUT YOU SAY BELIZE, AND THEY SAY, YOU'RE PARANOID. NO SIR, I'M NOT.

SORKIN: JOHN THERE ARE REPORTS AND PICTURES OF YOU ON THE INTERNET OFTEN, HOLDING WEAPONS, HOLDING GUNS. AND REPORTS OF YOU SHOOTING YOUR GUNS INSIDE YOUR HOME, ON YOUR PROPERTY REGULARLY. ARE THOSE REPORTS ACCURATE?

McAFEE: IT'S CERTAINLY ACCURATE THAT I HAD GUNS AND LOTS OF GUNS, BUT THEY WERE IN THE HANDS OF MY SECURITY GUARDS. I LIVE IN A COUNTRY, SIR, THAT HAS THE HIGHEST MURDER RATE IN THE WORLD. CHECK IT OUT ON THE INTERNET. IT'S POPULATED BY NUMEROUS GANGS. THE GANGS SUPPRESSION UNIT WAS CREATED OSTENSIBLY TO FIGHT GANGS. BUT IT DOESN'T IT FIGHTS BUSINESS MEN INSTEAD. THAT WAS THE UNIT THAT RAIDED MY PROPERTY. OF COURSE I HAVE GUNS. I HAVE SECURITY GUARDS. I HAVE DOGS. THE REASON I HAD TEN DOGS IS THEY BARK IF SOMEONE TRIES TO BREAK IN. I DID. AS TO THE SHOOTING, THAT'S UTTER COMPLETE NONSENSE. THERE WAS SHOOTING THE NIGHT MY DOGS WERE POISONED BECAUSE THEY POISONED FOUR OF MY DOGS, THEY WERE IN AGONY. I AND THE SECURITY GUARDS SHOT THEM, YES. OTHER THAN THAT THAT'S COMPLETE NONSENSE. THIS IS AGAIN THE PRESS PICKING SOMETHING UP. THIS IS LIKE CNN. FOR EXAMPLE, MARCO VIDAL HEAD OF THE GSU PUT OUT A PRESS REPORT THE DAY THE BODY WAS DISCOVERED BEFORE THE BODY WAS DISCOVERED SAYING, JOHN McAFEE IS THE PRIME SUSPECT. CNN WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT PUBLISHED IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T CHECK IT OUT. THE SAN PEDRO POLICE WHO WERE IN CHARGE, THEY SAID, NO, WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE YET. WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED THE INVESTIGATION. THE GSU IS NOT INVOLVED. ONCE CNN REPORTED IT, EVERYBODY REPORTED IT. SO WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW IS REPORTING SOMEBODY ELSE'S NEWS. IF I DON'T PUT A STOP TO IT HERE AND NOW WITH THIS ONE QUESTION, THEN SOMEONE ELSE WILL REPORT IT AGAIN.

FRANK: JOHN, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. YOU KNOW PEOPLE KNOW YOU AS AN ENTREPRENEUR. YOU'RE 67, YOU HAVE ABOUT $5 MILLION LEFT. WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW? WILL YOU START ANOTHER BUSINESS? WILL YOU TRY TO GET THOSE ASSETS BACK TO THE U.S.? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO MAKE A LIVING, OR TO GET YOUR FORTUNE BACK IN THE COMING MONTHS?

McAFEE: MAKING MONEY IS EASY. IT IS. THE DIFFICULT THING IN LIFE IS NOT MAKING IT, IT'S KEEPING IT. ANY IDIOT CAN MAKE MONEY. KEEPING MONEY, VERY FEW CAN DO. I ALWAYS HAVE BUSINESSES. I HAD FIVE BUSINESSES IN BELIZE. I OWNED THE -- A WATER TAXI BUSINESS, A WATER SPORTS THING FOR TOURISTS. I OWN A BAR IN CARMELITA THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN IN, BECAUSE I GO INTO PLACES THAT DRINK. I'LL DO SOMETHING. I'LL SHINE SHOES. I'M 67 AND I'M STILL BREATHING.

FRANK: JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. PLEASE STAY WITH US IN THE COMING MONTHS AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO.

McAFEE: THANK YOU, SIR.



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