Trader Talk with Bob Pisani


  Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008 | 4:15 PM ET

Fed Statement For Traders: Blah, Blah, Blah

Posted By: Bob Pisani

Stock traders were disappointed with the Fed statement. How disappointed? The Fed statement was excruciatingly bland. Traders looking for signs of a pause seized on this statement: "substantial easing of monetary policy to date, combined with ongoing measures to foster market liquidity, should help to promote moderate growth over time and to mitigate the risks to economic activity."

Uh, OK. Maybe. Sorry, that is not clear enough that they are done.

On top of it, those looking for a more hawkish statement on inflation were bitterly disappointed. Indeed, they repeated the statement that they expect inflation to moderate.

But the Street is VERY worried about inflation because they have seen the effect it is having on corporate profits, and although the weak dollar has been a help to profits it has gotten so weak that even stock traders are worried about it.

The result of this bland, somewhat dovish statement: the dollar drops, bonds and gold rallies, and the fear that there is nothing to moderate the rise in oil ripples through stocks--consumers like retailers and home builders have posted notable declines late this afternoon.

The good news: April is over! And it's the first up month for S&P since October! S&P up 4.9 percent, best month since Dec. 2003.

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  Wednesday, 30 Apr 2008 | 9:31 AM ET

Inflation May Lessen In The Future Says Analyst

Posted By: Bob Pisani

Futures trading higher first on a better than expected ADP report , then on a better than expected GDP report.

The Street has been acting like the long commodities/short dollar trade is coming to an end; the wording of the Fed's statement will determine if that is really the case. It may be unlikely for them to change their bias toward lower rates this early, but they will almost certainly sound more hawkish on inflation.

But will inflation be with us for the foreseeable future? Ned Davis, in a note to clients, noted that there are elements that indicate that inflation may lessen in the near future: 1) labor costs are in check, 2) inflation normally ebbs during recessions, and 3) the debt bubble and credit squeeze normally have serious deflationary potential.

Are the world's central banks starting to turn? The Bank of Japan gave up its two-year bias toward rising rates and warned of downside risks to the country's economy. They kept interest rates at 0.5 percent. They warned that inflation posed a risk to the economy. Will the ECB follow?

Elsewhere, the two big trends continue: commodity inflation is a real concern, and strong international sales and a weak dollar are offsetting U.S. weakness.

1) Inflation watch:

--Despite higher costs, Dean Foods and Kellogg both beat.

--International Paper short of expectations , and again inflation is the issue. They were able to raise some prices, but not fast enough to keep up with material costs.

2) International sales strong:

--GMsmaller than expected loss . International sales up 20 percent. Not clear what impact the American Axle strike has had on sales. Up 5 percent pre-open.

--Engine maker Cummins beat, and strong international sales (57 percent of sales are now overseas) helped offset rising commodity prices and sluggishness in the U.S.

--Colgate reported U.S. sales up 7 percent, while international sales were up mid to high double digits. To offset higher prices, they have been trying to shift to higher-margin items.


--Citi prices at $4.5 b common stock offering at $25.27 . It was supposed to be $3 b, at least that what was said yesterday, but it was increased "in response to strong demand."

--Proctor & Gamble in line with expectations, lower end of guidance raised.

--United Online buying FTD group , for what amounts to $15.08 per share, which includes about half cash and half United Online notes. FTD closed last night at $13.50.

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  Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 | 4:51 PM ET

Smart Money Leaving Commodities for Tech?

Posted By: Bob Pisani

Is this the beginning of a rotation in the stock market? There's debate about this, but there are signs that some smart money is positioning themselves for a rotation out of commodities -- and into tech.

This has been spurred by concern that the Fed will begin sounding more hawkish on inflation tomorrow. This (along with some signs that inflation is moderating in Europe) is giving a modest boost to the dollar in the last week.

The result: Money has been quietly coming out of commodity stocks like gold and metals -- but even out of agricultural stocks, despite stellar earnings.

At the same time, classic tech momentum stocks like Google, Baidu.com, Research in Motion, and Apple have broken out to multi-month highs.

Are the fundamentals for commodities falling apart? No. Demand for gold remains strong. Ol is at 116.. potash is contracting at $1000 a metric ton. Steel prices remain firm. Iron ore prices are rising. But the commodity/commodity stock trade is very long in the tooth (materials stocks are up over 100 percent in the past five years), and it is, as traders say, a very crowded long.

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  Tuesday, 29 Apr 2008 | 9:17 AM ET

Inflation Complaints Rise, But Credit Card Earnings Boom

Posted By: Bob Pisani

European bourses are lower today as European banks are continuing to report poor earnings--this morning Deutsche Bank reported its first loss in five years, abandoned its 2008 profit targets and wrote down over $4 b in mortgage-related assets. Allianzalso said that their profit targets would be harder to attain.

Spain's biggest bank, Santander, did much better, but only because Spanish regulations prevent their banks from holding the riskier assets their northern cousins held.

In the U.S., bonds are opening higher, stocks lower, and the modest rally in the dollar continues.


1) Inflation complaints are everywhere:

a) Paper company Temple Inland said pricing was not keeping up with inflation. Average prices for recycled fibers was up 21 percent from last year.

b) The inflation Domino's Pizza complained about cost inflation and soft domestic sales. They say they are implementing "pricing strategies to attract lower-ticket customer customers, a segment we've left behind in the recent past, as we dramatically increased our prices." Uh, not to be sarcastic, but isn't pizza a lower-ticket item by definition?

2) Many companies complained of slower conditions:

a) Example: Office Depot . Florida and California notably weak, but even outside those states there was also a deterioration. Still, they beat by a wide margin. North American retail sales were down 7 percent, and the North American Business Solutions Division was down 5 percent, but International was up 6 percent (tired of this "North American weak, International strong story yet? It's happening with all the international companies). Up 7 percent pre-open.

3) Credit cards earnings are simply outstanding.

Visa beat, their numbers were strong by any metric you would care to look at. Many analysts raising estimates.

Here's an important point: management said there was no deceleration in transaction or payment volume growth, even though consumer spending is clearly slowing. What does that mean? It's an indication that credit cards as a payment method are clearly winning out over cash and checks. More people are using them, so volume is still growing even though overall consumer spending is slowing. Get that?

Visa is trading down fractionally. Why? Some are whining that the second half operating margin guidance is a bit weak. The real reason it is down is that fast money is taking some profits after a two-week tear that saw the stock go from $65 to $75.

Mastercard was even better. They beat earnings estimates by 30 percent; it's up 10 percent pre-open. Strong growth overseas.

4) Corning beat, the CEO said demand for LCD TV sales was still up compared to a year ago and saw no evidence of an inventory buildup. Guidance above estimates. Up 4 percent.

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  Monday, 28 Apr 2008 | 1:36 PM ET

Newspaper Headline: Circulation Fall Worse Than Expected

Posted By: Bob Pisani

The newspaper industry's twice-yearly circulation report has arrived, and it is not a pretty picture overall. There was expectation that total circulation could drop 2.5 percent, and perhaps as much as 3.5 percent.

It was worse. At the nearly 550 papers that reported comparable figures, circulation was down 3.6 percent. At the New York Times, the third-largest paper by circulation, sales were down 3.9 percent, but it was worse elsewhere: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, for example, was down 8.5 percent.

It was not all bad news. USA Today was up 0.3 percent, Wall Street Journal up 0.4 percent. But newspaper sales have been declining since the 1980s, and has accelerated in recent years. The average age of a newspaper reader (hard copy) is now about 60.

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  Monday, 28 Apr 2008 | 1:31 PM ET

Is Everyone Comfortable With Fed Cuts Closing?

Posted By: Bob Pisani

What's up with the Fed this week? They will almost certainly cut rates a quarter point and signal that the period of cutting rates is coming to a close. The bond market believes this; look what happened to yields on the 2-year note last week.

The currency market thinks there might be something to this: the dollar's decline has stopped, and indeed the dollar may be notably undervalued here, particularly if the modest slowdown in Europe accelerates and the ECB is forced to cut rates.

What's interesting is the equity market response; stock traders seem comfortable with the idea that the Fed is stepping away. They are frightened by $120 oil and rapidly rising grain and plastic prices, putting pressure on two important industries.

What else will they do? Will they reduce the TSLF (term securities lending facility)? That’s the weekly loan facility that offers treasury securities for a one month loan against other collateral. Demand has not been as strong as some anticipated –the Fed certainly don't want dealers to think this program is a permanent source of funding.

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  Monday, 28 Apr 2008 | 11:33 AM ET

S&P May Have "Forecast" To Beat Market Storms

Posted By: Bob Pisani

Has S&P improved ability to weather cyclical risks? David Bianco at UBS and others think so.

I have remarked many times that with many non-financial S&P companies receiving 50 percent and more from overseas, their earnings have remained relatively strong. Non-financial earnings growth in the first quarter is about 10 percent, a typical performance is up 6-8 percent.

One question is how much of the growth was due to currency gains, vs. organic growth. This is tough to figure out, since many companies do not provide the data. S&P itself does not know, but a reasonable guess is it could be 1-2 percent of that 10 percent performance.

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  Monday, 28 Apr 2008 | 9:18 AM ET

Monday Mergers: Continental (No) Wrigley (Yes)

Posted By: Bob Pisani

European bourses are advancing again today; the FTSE, like the Dow, finally broke through to its highest levels since January; same with France's CAC 40. The Euro is down slightly, even though German consumer confidence rose to the highest since Oct '07.


1) Continental surprised a lot of people by abandoning merger talks with United .

Potential winners:

a) AMR , since a Continental/United would have been bad for AMR.

b) US Air , since it makes a deal with United more likely.

Potential losers:

a) United . Continental was their best merger partner. Credit Suisse was even more blunt: they believe UAL's standalone plan "is not viable." Now they’re down to talking to US Air.

Not clear if this is good or bad for the Delta/Northwest merger; it might be good, since one less merger happening makes government approval more likely.

From what I've heard, demand for summer travel seems to be quite strong, though there are worries about the fall.

2) Wrigley agreed to a merger with Mars for about $23 billion , $80 a share in cash (closed at $62.45 Friday). Hershey's also up 6 percent pre-open.

3) Tracinda announcing a tender offer for 20 million shares of Ford (less than 1 percent of shares outstanding) at $8.50 a share. That's a roughly 13 percent premium. Kerkorian already owns a 4.7 percent position in the company. Ford's stock rose 0.7 percent last week on better than expected earnings. Ford up 8 percent pre-open.

4) Now that's inflation: Tyson reported a loss of 2 cents (gain of 1 cent expected); chicken segment had losses due to higher grain costs. How much higher? For the year, they expect to pay an additional $600 million for corn and soybean meal. Throw in cooking oil increases and a few other costs, and increases will approach $1 b.

Rebate checks are finally going out, but with gasoline near $3.50 a gallon, it's not clear how much impact it's going to have.

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  Friday, 25 Apr 2008 | 9:01 AM ET

Stocks Need A "Mild Push"

Posted By: Bob Pisani

The good news: yesterday's volume was about the heaviest we have had all month, and the selloff in energy and materials was long overdue. The rotation into financials was much more debated, however. The skeptics asked, has the systemic risk of owning financials really been reduced thanks to all the capital raising and writedowns?

Also, note that the S&P gave up nearly half its gains in the last hour, and more importantly could not crack the old February highs.

So we need some mild push here--dollar continues to strengthen, bonds weaken, and a modestly positive day for stocks.


1) AmEx up about 4 percent as they beat, but again there was slower spending growth in the U.S., up 8 percent, but excellent strength in international, up 21 percent. Management reaffirmed its EPS expectations for 2008 of 4-6 percent growth over 2007. However, loan growth slowed, and loan loss reserves rose because there was an increase in delinquencies and write-offs. So even though it was a good report, most of the commentary is fairly cautious and nobody is raising guidance.

2) Speaking of international, Goodyear Tire beat, and here too international shined: North American sales decreased 1 percent, while Europe, Middle East and Africa hit a record, increasing 16 percent; Latin America also clocked record sales, up 29 percent. Up about 6 percent pre-open.

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  Thursday, 24 Apr 2008 | 3:32 PM ET

Back Into Banks -- and End of The Fear Trade?

Posted By: Bob Pisani

The markets today: rotation, and end of the fear trade?

1) The dollar rally has ignited market rotation: money is coming out of commodities & commodity stocks -- and into financials. The strangest part of the action today is the rather noticeable up moves in banks, as well as home builders. The bank index is up almost 5 percent, on heavy volume; the residential housing index is up 4 percent. What's going on?

Traders feel that the Federalo Reserve is signaling that the credit crises, while not over, is easing enough for them to turn their attention to inflation. Hence all this discussion that the Fed is nearing the end of its rate cutting, which was sharpened by the Greg Ip story this morning.

If the Fed's not so worried, maybe we shouldn't be so worried. Also, remember that while there has been a lot of short covering in financials, many have still not jumped back in and owned them to a significant extent.

As for housing, the numbers are no comfort , but again traders believe that none of the biggest builders will go under, and that capital raising will be minimal. I'm not convinced there will not be capital raising, however.

2) S&P again approaching breakout levels. In this case, passing 1395 -- the closing high on February 1 -- would break a pattern of lower lows that goes back to October of last year. In February, and twice in April, we approached these levels and failed; bullish traders have been burned at this level before.

If we clear these levels, what does it mean? The fundamentals are still bad -- just look at the horrifying new-home sales number this morning -- but it's a sign the Street is already looking past these ugly months.

3) Gold and bonds: the fear trade lessens. The VIX is at its lowest level since December, and this may be the day that traders are finally convinced that gold and bonds have topped out. If the Street becomes convinced of that, stocks will benefit even more.

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