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  Wednesday, 21 May 2008 | 9:14 AM ET

Oil Slaps Down Stocks, Retail Apparel A Bright Spot

Posted By: Bob Pisani

How much is oil slapping around stocks? Futures were up about 5 points until about 6 AM, when oil hit $130 . Market sold off immediately.

Europe started stronger (Germany's IFO business confidence number rose unexpectedly), but rolled over about three hours ago, just as oil hit $130. Dollar falls to a four-week low vs. the Euro.


1) Talbots handily beat expectations and maintained 2008 earnings guidance; up 14 percent pre-open.

2) Once again, we are seeing off-price apparel stores doing well. This morning Ross Stores reported good earnings, and more importantly gave guidance for the current quarter and the full year above analyst expectations. They are forecasting same store sales gains of 1 to 3 percent, a rarity in retail these days.

3) Airlines down a bit again this morning, as Soleil--which describes itself as "perhaps the last bullish holdout on the airline sector," gave up the ghost as oil hit $130. They drop AMR and United to a sell. British Airways CEO was on our air this morning, saying there will be airline failures in this cycle.

4) Hewlett Packard down fractionally as they beat estimates. Not surprisingly, strong growth overseas offset a weak U.S. market. PLEASE NOTE: 69 percent of Hewlett's revenues are now generated outside the U.S.

Guidance for the (current) third quarter unchanged. Fiscal 2008 guidance of $3.54-$3.58 about in line with estimates of $3.54.

5) Much chatter about market rotation today, after S&P announced that the technology sector had overtaken financials in market value. This is the first time that has happened since 2002. The energy sector is up about 10 percent this month, and closed yesterday at an historic high.

Percentage of S&P 500:

Technology 16.26 percent
Financials 16.19 percent
Energy 14.89 percent

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  Tuesday, 20 May 2008 | 4:36 PM ET

Pisani: Why Market Bears Ruled Tuesday

Posted By: Bob Pisani

Bears had the upper hand today.


--oilprices at highs, not backing down
--dollar rally evaporating
--inflationtrends clearer (core PPI stronger thanexpected validating pass-through from commodity inflation)
--retail & financials turnaroundless certain
--visibility poor
--volume trends poor

But bulls were not silent.


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  Tuesday, 20 May 2008 | 1:23 PM ET

Market's Problems: Oil, Retail, Financials, Dollar

Posted By: Bob Pisani

The market is grappling with a series of macro and individual stock problems today.

--Oil at new highs is the main problem , but the slow drop in the dollar (at the lows for the month, and reversing much of the gains from its bottom in April) is a particular aggravating factor;

--Core PPI higher than expected has the inflation hawks out;

--Cautious retail commentary two days in a row.

The retail issues are not surprising; we heard Lowe's talking cautiously yesterday, now Home Depot is guiding toward the low end of its previous guidance . The Saks CEO got a chuckle on trading desks this morning by saying that the consumer is acting as if there's a recession, whether there is one or not.

Bottom line: the retail turnaround is less certain, and further out.

Financials are also weak today:

--Fannie Mae officials, speaking at their annual meeting, saying home prices could fall as much as 25% from their highs, and even though they are short-term winners int he housing bill they are clearly taking on more risks;

--AIG hitting 10 year lows as executives there say they are looking to shed non-core assets;

--Oppenheimer's Meredith Whitney again trash-talking financials, saying the credit crisis will extend into 2009,

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  Tuesday, 20 May 2008 | 9:37 AM ET

Home Depot's Bottom Line: Weaker Sales

Posted By: Bob Pisani

Futures dropped a bit as core PPI for April was a stronger than expected.


1) Home Depotbeat estimates, reporting earnings of $0.41 (14 percent below last year's $0.48), vs. consensus estimates of $0.37.

Despite the apparent beat, the stock is down 3 percent:

a) the company gave no guidance, though they may say something on the conference call;

b) a calendar change may have been the reason for the beat. There were a number of analysts, including Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs, noted that they traded a lower volume week this year (in February) and included a higher volume week (in April). That helped growth by $536mm or 2.9%. According to Deutsche Bank, "We're not sure if HD's comp result is adjusted, but our guess is that it is not, meaning the shift accounted for the sequential improvement in comps."

Adjusted for this calendar shift, same store sales fell 9 to 9.4 percent, according to Goldman.

Bottom line: like Lowe's , Home Depot is also experiencing notably weaker sales.

On the conference call, they have been talking about "significant" commodity cost pressures and "relatively weak demand."

2) Staples earnings were in-line.Though Staples also had a decline in comp store sales (down 6 percent), European comp store sales were up 4 percent, they came in in line with estimates and reiterated their full year outlook.

3) Autozone beat expectations. Same-store sales were down 0.3 percent, a tad shy of expectations.

4) Lehman joining other firms in raising target prices on oil service names like Baker Hughers and Cooper Cameron reflecting, they, say, "a strong recovery in 2008 and 2009 for North American natural gas drilling and substantial growth internationally over the next few years."

5) Barclaysis considering acquisition of banks including UBS or Lehman Brothers, according to unsourced sources being used at the Daily Telegraph in London. The purchase would be funded by a large rights issue that would also have the purpose of shoring up the balance sheet.

6) JP Morgan and Fannie Mae hold their annual shareholder meetings.

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  Monday, 19 May 2008 | 9:32 AM ET

Out Of Office Reply

Posted By: Bob Pisani

It's Monday, but I'm still on a mini-vacation of sorts from the market floor. I'll be back tomorrow with more posts. See you then.

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  Friday, 16 May 2008 | 9:58 AM ET

No Posts Today

Posted By: Bob Pisani

I'm away from the trading floor today but I'll be back next week with more posts. See you then.

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  Thursday, 15 May 2008 | 4:49 PM ET

Market Trend Is Up Thanks To Philly Fed, Oil

Posted By: Bob Pisani

The trend is up! Despite initial disappointment withpoor industrial production numbers , things improved when the Philly Fed came in stronger, and got a lot betterwhen oil dropped midday.

Stocks close at the highs for the week, and we had significant breakouts:

--Transports: 10-month highs (near historic highs!)

--S&P 500, NASDAQ, Russell 2000: 4-month high

--S&P Energy and Materials: historic high

--Emerging markets index: high for year

There are problems:

--Low volume


Still, look at the facts: there is a very small group (10-15 percent of traders, by my estimate) who are bullish, and modest gains like this followed by breakouts like those above are just what is needed to get the perhaps 40 percent of traders who are fence-sitters back in the market. The other 50 percent are outright bearish—it will take a lot more to get them back in.

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  Thursday, 15 May 2008 | 4:05 PM ET

CNBC's "Boomer Angst": There's Plenty Of It Out There

Posted By: Bob Pisani

As I've said, CNBC is airing a special tomorrow night, “Boomer Angst,” which will air at 9 pm and midnight. There is plenty of angst out there. This week, a new coalition was launched to encourage the American public to save more. They point out that:

--Debt payments now consume 15 percent of family income;

--63% of Americans say they don't save enough;

--The U.S. saves less than almost all industrial nations.

A separate study at the Center for Retirement Studies at Boston University found that:

--Nearly 45 percent of households are "at risk" of not having enough to maintain their living standards in retirement, even if they retire at 65;

--The median balance for household heads approaching retirement is only $60,000 (!)

For more information on the new coalition that is being formed—and how you can get involved—check out their report atwww.newthrift.org.

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  Thursday, 15 May 2008 | 3:59 PM ET

CNBC's "Boomer Angst" And Myths And Facts About Getting Old

Posted By: Bob Pisani

CNBC has a special out tomorrow night titled "Boomer Angst" that will air at 9 pm EST and midnight. Watch it--because you need to know that baby boomers are not even close to having enough for their retirement. I've put upa number of facts on my blog today about this crisis .--here's a few more.

This is in the form of "Myths and Reality" from an upcoming book from the Center for Retirement Research at Boston University. The authors are Alicia H. Munnell and Steven Sass, the book is entitled "Working Longer: The Solution to the Retirement Income Challenge," and will be published by the Brookings Institution Press.

Myth: Older workers will choose to work longer on their own.

Reality: Most people retire as soon as benefits are available at age 62.

Myth: As baby boomers approach retirement, employers will embrace older workers.

Reality: Many employers are lukewarm toward retaining older workers due to concerns that they cost too much, lack current skills, and don't plan to stick around long.

Myth: Older workers have little to offer employers.

Reality: Older workers often have advantages over younger workers - including higher productivity, better judgment, a stronger work ethic, and better people skills.

Myth: Most workers can work longer by remaining with their career employer.

Reality: Career employment is declining fast - only 44 percent of male workers age 58-62 are still with their age-50 employer, down from 70 percent two decades ago.

Myth: The working longer prescription is the answer for everyone.

Reality: While today's older workers are generally healthier and better educated, up to a third could be hard pressed to work into their mid-60s due to poor health or job prospects.

Myth: Government cannot do much to encourage longer work lives.

Reality: Raising Social Security's earliest eligibility age of 62 could push back the work/retirement divide by changing the mindset of both workers and employers.

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  Thursday, 15 May 2008 | 2:49 PM ET

CNBC's "Survival Guide: Boomer Angst" And The Retirement Crisis

Posted By: Bob Pisani

This Friday at 9 pm EST and midnight, CNBC will air a special, "Boomer Angst," on the difficulties the baby boomers are facing in their retirement. We did a similar special a year and a half ago, and the facts have not improved since then.

The Center for Retirement Research (CRRS) at Boston College, in a paper published in August, 2007, noted that:

--Nearly 45 percent of households are "at risk" of not having enough to maintain their living standards in retirement, even if they retire at 65;
--The median balance for household heads approaching retirement is only $60,000 (!)

What accounts for this declining prosperity? There are three legs to retirement: Social Security, personal savings such as a 401(k) plan, and a pension or defined benefit plan.

But there are cracks everywhere: Social Security is increasingly strained, and there are clear problems with pensions and 401(k)s.

One major problem is that the percentage of households with pensions are declining. The CRRS study noted that in 1992 most households age 51-61 were covered by a pension (defined benefit plan). By 2004, 35 percent of households in this age group with pension coverage were covered by a 401(k) plan only; in other words, an increasing number of households have no pension, just a 401(k) or similar instrument.

Well, people could make up that loss by putting more in their personal retirement programs, couldn't they? Theoretically, yes, but they appear not to be doing so; many do not fully fund their plans and participation rates are actually dropping. The CRRS report noted that benefits projected from 401(k)s are smaller than those projected from defined benefit plans.

Baby boomers are facing other headwinds as well:

--Lower interest rates, which cut into fixed income;
--Longer lifespans than their parents, which require more overall retirement wealth;
--Rapidly increasing health care costs could substantially increase the number of households "at risk";
--Housing wealth, a substantial part of household wealth in the past, is much lower than in previous decades, thanks to recent shrinkage in home values and a notable rise in mortgage debt. This means that some households will be facing mortgage payments during retirement.

The conclusion of the CRRS study: "Yes, there really is a retirement savings crisis." Americans need to save more and work longer.

Here is the full Boston College paper on retirement, "Is There Really A Retirement Savings Crisis?"

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