HARWOOD: Talk a little bit about the pressures on men and women running for president to adhere to the party line. John McCain, after the 2000 campaign, offered a confession of sorts and said, "I'm kind of embarrassed to say that when the issue of the Confederate Flag in South Carolina came up, I flinched. I told them what they wanted to hear." Did you do that in your campaign?
HUNTSMAN: I did it once — Fox News debate, when they asked about the 10-to-1 deal on taxes. I've forgiven myself since. But I was upset from that moment on that I didn't hold my ground. It was my first major debate. And I had never raised taxes as a governor. And we delivered the largest tax cut. So it's, how do you maintain your viability, your integrity, without sort of causing the one thing I do have that is perfectly pure on the conservative side, my tax record, from being questioned. I look back, and that was pandering. I shouldn't have done it. But we all make mistakes, don't we?
HARWOOD: People said after you were nominated as a vice presidential candidate, you flipped on affirmative action, school choice, and things like that.
LIEBERMAN: Basically I kept the same positions, but I really had to say Al Gore is the presidential candidate. He determines policy. He makes the final decision. I'm sorry you have such a good memory.
HARWOOD: Are we in the moment when the two-party system as we've known is breaking apart, or is it simply what we're used to?
LIEBERMAN: Our politics has been partisan and in some ways personal from the beginning. But this seems very different because it's created a dysfunction that has stopped us from solving problems that we people want us to solve, like creating more jobs, balancing the budget, protecting Social Security and Medicare. And so people are angry. The problems are not dealt with until they become crises that are really going to hurt the country. People more than ever before are turned off to the government. To really have a democracy like ours, you've got to preserve trust between those who govern and the people who are governed. An increasing number of people don't have that today. The best way to stop that is to show that the government could work sensibly and honorably. That's what we want to see happen.