Republican Representative John Boehner
Republican Representative John Boehner



Following is the unofficial transcript of a CNBC interview with Speaker of the House John Boehner on CNBC’s “The Kudlow Report” tonight. All references must be sourced to CNBC.

LARRY KUDLOW: Speaker Boehner, welcome back to the Kudlow Report, sir.

JOHN BOEHNER: Good to be with you.

LARRY KUDLOW: Thank you. Let me begin, of course, with the catastrophe going on in Japan-- and ask you first, are there thoughts, policies, discussions in Congress? What can we do to help our Japanese friends?

JOHN BOEHNER: Well, clearly-- our hearts and souls go out-- to the people of Japan, and the tragedy that-- they have faced and are facing. Whether it's-- military help, or whether it's our expertise-- food supplies-- a lot that we will be doing-- to help the Japanese people.

LARRY KUDLOW: Will the Congress appropriate additional funds for these kinds of emergency assistance?

JOHN BOEHNER: I think-- that's yet to be seen. But-- I would not be surprised.

LARRY KUDLOW: And, do you think these-- food supplies and military assistance is going to start right away? Is it in motion as we speak?

JOHN BOEHNER: I think it's been in motion all weekend, and will continue.

LARRY KUDLOW: Let me ask you also, of course related to this, is the whole issue of-- the threatened nuclear meltdown in Japan. Is that going to effect American energy policy? Are you going to hold additional hearings on this?

JOHN BOEHNER: Well, Chairman Upton at the Energy and Commerce Committee-- already has a hearing scheduled for this week with the head of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. And, I'm sure the question will come up-- about-- those types of plants-- what kind of experience we have here. But, it's clear-- that there are lessons to be learned-- from what's happening in Japan as we speak. And, I think that we need to learn those lessons-- as we continue to look at how do we produce-- more energy from nuclear sources here in America.

LARRY KUDLOW: You were home this weekend and-- Ohio has some nuclear-- power plants. Did-- did local folks-- did voters-- were they talking about this? Were they worried about their own nuclear plants?

JOHN BOEHNER: No, I didn't hear any concerns raised. But-- as you watch these images on TV, you can't help-- but be concerned-- about-- what caused this-- these de-- design of these plants, as I understand-- is about-- they're about 40 years old. And, what improvements have been made-- over the course of the last 40 years-- and, what's the risk-- that we face if we continue-- to-- push more nuclear energy here in the United States. I think that's the question the American people want to know.

LARRY KUDLOW: And-- I'm sure you're right. Is-- it-- are people saying, "This is the end of nuclear energy policy"?


LARRY KUDLOW: I mean, is it going to be cut and dry? Or, are they going to give this--


LARRY KUDLOW: --an honest look?

JOHN BOEHNER: --listen, I think we need-- we need to take a step back-- understand what happened, understand what changes have been made, and really understand what-- what-- what are the risk here. As we all know-- Japan-- sits-- in-- volcanic area-- prone to earthquakes. You know, they have some 1,500 earthquakes a year.

We've got parts of the United States-- that have some inclination toward earthquakes. But, we have other parts of the country where there are-- there's no threat. But, we need to learn those lessons. But, I don't think it should deter us-- from trying to do everything we can-- to move America toward energy independence.

LARRY KUDLOW: Let's turn back to the budget. On Friday, you unveiled a new continuing resolution, I guess to stop a shutdown this Friday. You got another $6 billion of budget cuts in there towards your $61 billion target. Can this one get through?

JOHN BOEHNER: I believe that-- the continuing resolution this week will pass for another three weeks, keeping the government open. And yet, though, cutting some $6 billion, which means that over the last-- several weeks, we'll be able-- to accumulate $10 billion worth of real savings.

All of this-- because the democrats did no budget last year. They did no appropriation bills, and dumped this mess in our lap. I want the-- the-- the continuing resolution through September 30th finished as soon as possible. But, that's going to mean real cuts. It's going to mean real limitations-- on what this administration can do for the balance of this fiscal year. And, I'm hopeful that we'll get it finished as soon as possible.

LARRY KUDLOW: I mean, you've got a lot of pressures, as we know. You've got tea party conservatives on one side. You've got people that want policy defunding of Obamacare on the other side. Democrats are way apart. I mean, it's almost a $50 billion gap. You told me a little while ago if the democrats won't take the whole loaf of budget cuts, you're going to give it to them one slice at a time. Do you think you can get most of the original $61 billion in cuts?

JOHN BOEHNER: Well, I think we'll see. We're in discussions-- with the democrats in the Senate, with the administration. We want to cut spending because cutting spending will lead to a better environment for businesses to help create jobs in America. That's-- the core of what we're trying to do, bring some fiscal sanity to Washington DC.

LARRY KUDLOW: And, you've also been talking about next year's budget, if you get to it, for 2012. And, you want to put some entitlement reforms in there. You want to put some entitlement limits and caps. How specific will you be? What kind of size reduction in spending might that come to?

JOHN BOEHNER: We've got serious fiscal challenges facing our country. And, it's time that we, as Americans-- have an adult conversation with each other about the serious challenges that face our country. No more kicking the can down the road. I've watched it go on for all the years that I've been here. So, you will see us-- bend the curve. You will see us lay out a plan that will not only balance the budget, but-- pay off the debt.

It's going to take a long time to do this. But, it's time to make decisions. And, the unfortunate part of this is that the President a year ago set up a Deficit Reduction Commission. They did a lot of very good work. And, they worked very hard. And, I don't agree with everything they did.

But,when the President submitted-- his budget about a month ago, not one idea from his own Deficit Reduction Commission. That's just kicking the can down the road. It's whistling past the graveyard. And, House republicans, along with our colleagues in the Senate-- are not going to do that. If he won't lead, we will.

LARRY KUDLOW: How do you react to criticism from democrats? Let's see, Senator Reed, Senator Durbin, Senator Schumer, they say republican spending cuts are bad for economic growth, bad for jobs. How do you react to that-- and, has the republican party focused too much on spending austerity, and not enough on economic growth?

JOHN BOEHNER: I gave the President a letter signed by 150 economists over a month ago-- that said that cutting federal spending will lead to a better environment for job creation in America. Businesses-- and, I used to be a small businessman-- understand that-- you can't continue to borrow 40 cents for every dollar the Federal Government spends.

And, if we begin to cut spending, and people understand that we're serious about putting America-- on a sound fiscal footing-- it will send the signal to business people and investors-- that America is a place they can invest in. It's that investment that creates jobs.

LARRY KUDLOW: What about pro-growth tax reform, particularly business tax cuts? What about pro-growth regulatory moratorium? There's been a lot of talk about over-regulation of energy, for example. We got, what, $3.50 at the gallon. Many economists believe that's going to raise the inflation rate and lower the economic growth rate. So, tax cute-- an-- and regulatory freezes, where's the GOP--

JOHN BOEHNER: Well, when you--

LARRY KUDLOW: --on that?

JOHN BOEHNER:--look at-- what it's going to take to create jobs in America, we talked about cutting spending. We also need to look at all of this regulation coming out of this administration. And, whether it's Obamacare, whether it's the Dodd-Frank-- financial services bill-- the EPA that's-- choking-- our ability to produce more American energy, we need to look at the regulatory side as well.

But, how about the three free trade bills-- that are sitting-- downtown-- the administration's holding-- Panama, Colombia, South Korea? Free trade will create more jobs here in the United States. And, we need to produce energy. We need to produce energy because we need to bring energy prices down.

But, let's not forget-- that if we begin to do all of the above on the energy side-- we because it'll create up-- up to a million new jobs here in America. So, we need to do all of these things, if we're going to create a better environment-- for our economy to get up and get moving and get Americans back to work.

LARRY KUDLOW: You know, President-- President Obama and especially Vice President Biden-- Mr. Biden was over in Russia recently, talking about admitting Russia into the World Trade Organization, which would require a congressional vote. Wouldn't it be better to get these free trade deals passed before we put Russia into the World Trade Organization?

JOHN BOEHNER: Well, these free trade bills, some of them have been out there for three or four years. I believe that-- and then, the South Korea trade agreement. Let's deal with these. And-- and if Russians want to-- actually agree to play by the rules-- then we can have a discussion about whether-- ascension into the WTO is the right step.

LARRY KUDLOW: Let me ask one last one. Do you believe that President Obama has turned pro-business? I get this question all the time. He had a charm offensive, he spoke to the Chamber of Commerce, and particularly his new Chief of Staff, Bill Daley. Have you spoken to Mr. Daley? Have you heard from him that they want a pro-business, pro-growth agenda? W-- how do you come out on all that? Have any changes really been made in the last couple months--

JOHN BOEHNER: Well, I've--

LARRY KUDLOW: --in the White House?

JOHN BOEHNER: --talked to the President a lot over the last couple of months. And, I've talked to Mr. Daley a number of times. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words. I haven't seen any new actions yet.

LARRY KUDLOW: What are you looking for? What would be a hint?

JOHN BOEHNER: Well, send the three free trade agreements to Congress for our consideration. Let's put a real moratorium on new regulations coming out of his administration, which he's also-- called for.

LARRY KUDLOW: How about Mr. Camp, your Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee? He runs tax policy-- I know he runs trade policy too. Have you deputized him to come with a-- business tax cut-- business tax cut reform bill?

JOHN BOEHNER: If we want to make America more competitive-- we've got to reform our corporate tax code. It in the way of job creation in America-- Dave Camp-- is a great Chairman. We came to Congress together 21 years ago. He is working-- on that reform. There's a number of hearings that are already-- set up. The administration appears to have some interest-- in wanting to pursue this. And, I'm optimistic.

LARRY KUDLOW: Could this happen in my lifetime?

JOHN BOEHNER: It could happen this year.


JOHN BOEHNER: I hope that much-- was in your lifetime.

LARRY KUDLOW: I have high expectation. You think it could-- you think you could get business tax reform this year, that's--


LARRY KUDLOW: --possible?

JOHN BOEHNER: I actually do.

LARRY KUDLOW: All right. Speaker John Boehner, we appreciate your time very much, sir.

JOHN BOEHNER: Nice to see you.


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